Big f-ing Pot
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Saturday, March 2, 2013
Super Deep 2/5 Hand from Charles Town...What to do on river?
I love deep stacked poker due to all of the subtelties and creativity it allows. I posted this hand on 2p2...any opinions on wtf to do on river?
Big f-ing Pot
Click on the link to get the original post and responses or you can just read the hand in the screenshot above. Hand actually took place in December...not sure why I typed week or two ago.
Big f-ing Pot
Click on the link to get the original post and responses or you can just read the hand in the screenshot above. Hand actually took place in December...not sure why I typed week or two ago.
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i think villian leads turn with any sets or AT; therefore i really think your ahead of everything but A2cc or A5cc. value river and hope for call from some A or JJ
Is this the type of player to get sticky with AK?
Regardless, I bet / call the river there. I like your thought of 1/3 pot (which, FWIW, is a buy in at your stakes). There just aren't too many 2 pair combos that hit him while holding the Ace - particularly since you have 2 of the card removing cards to the board (only 2 Tens & 2 Nines left in the deck).
I would expect a turn lead from his monsters like Ac5c / Ac2c, but is he really 3betting these hands?
Again, bet smallish and call a smallish raise.
Yes for those that didn't see the end of the thread on 2p2, I bet $850 on river and he tank folded. I think I am only really value betting against JTcc, QTcc, Axcc and maybe JJ. Against that range I think a smaller VB is in order. He later claimed to have folded AQcc. I think I get looked up by $500ish
Odd that he calls the turn, but folds when he hits his river. Moreover, odd that he 3bets to boot!
Weird hand - weirdly played by villain, though not exactly traditional by you either...
@PM Yeah I think his play in this hand is decidedly meh. I mean if he is calling turn only to play a flush then that is pretty bad. Limp/3b AQ seems pretty spew this deep. Maybe against a fish it works (who knows maybe my table image was fishy...lol)
Some don't like my line pre. I don't mind it in pos this deep. I think my hand plays pretty easy post flop and I effectively have the button.
I lack the balls to do something like that as deep as you are. However, here are a few notes as to why I wouldn't believe AQcc:
He's l/r 4 betting you from OOP. We check through the flop & he c/calls turn. If he hits his A on the river, he has to believe he's good unless he has you on AK, TT. It just doesnt make sense for him to all of a sudden believe you to be on AK when he 4bets you and you flat. He's never putting you on T9 here - that's agreed, right? So he's got you on a fair range of TT+... perhaps 99+... by your flats. I don't know; you lead the turn and lead the river, showing no fear of the rivered Ace - perhaps its possible that he puts you on a set, but there's just so much that he has you beat - and believes he has you beat pre (or else he wouldn't be 4betting).
Sorry for the stream of consciousness... I hope my thoughts make some semblance of sense...
Yeah I mean AQcc is a part of his range but I'm not sure I believe him either. I think he is more likely to have a hand like JTcc or QTcc or just simply KQcc or QJ and was simply hollywooding the river. Who knows but can't imagine anyone lying at the tables :P
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