Weird Turn spot-PAHWM
I think Villain's range here is still pretty wide. I don't think he is good enough to raise KQ, KJ, QJ of spades in this spot. I think he has a lot of Aces in his range with the occasional 2 pairs A5, A7, 57, T7, etc. Given the preflop limp and flop call I don't give much weight to AT. i guess he could have 55 or 77 but think AA and TT are pretty unlikely as well.
If we are calling or raising turn what is plan for river?
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my standard here is to call the turn raise, then check call a blank river. i am also check calling if i hit my flush on the river for two reasons: 1) he won't call a check raise on the river -- or will shove against my check raise with a better flush.
2) if he is getting bluffy, it will allow him to continue to bluff the river whereas he will fold if i lead the river
You have a monster on the turn against a spewy lagtard. I 3b him to 350 or so and bomb most rivers.... half pot river should be about right w bad ribs being a paired ace.
So I did 3b to 350 on turn...not sure I love it away from table. He begrudgingly called. On a brick river I sort of made a merged bet of $380. I am not really sure if I am bluffing or value betting here. I don't think he folds many 2 pair hands as all but 57 beat me...he may fold T7s. And he may call AJ-AQ...river is a really weird spot after he flats my 3b
So what did he have or did he fold the river?
He had AT which given the pre-flop and flop action I really didn't think was much a part of his range.Like I said I thought my river bet was basically a merge and obviously I was right.
Given description, I'm surprised to see him with at as well... limp/call does not seem likely. In retrospect, im thinking about the river lead - what is he calling worse? I'm c/coming rather than firing... does anything change if river is a ten? I assume river was a brick, right?
@PM Well I think river is certainly close when he r/c turn. In these spots my default is almost always to bet unless the opponent is very good (not a lot of 2/5 players IMO).
I mentioned that my hand range is merged. Original discussion of merging here by the legendary AEjones: http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=10167797&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1
Weird spot where I think I do get some better to fold T7...maybe A5 and I def get value out of players who love to bluffcatch AQ, AJ even AK and maybe 57.
I am clearly b/f here though. If river is T it is probably a puke b/f too as I eliminate 55 and 77 on turn when he just flats...if it's a 5 I probably VB a bit bigger like 525-550.
I don't love to c/c a lot on the river since I think most 2/5 players are so passive in big pots on the river.
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